Is Division and Disorder Facing the West?

Interesting insights here about the upcoming French, American and British elections and the future of Western democracy.

Until Joe Biden took the stage in last week’s debate with Donald Trump, the most catastrophically stupid presidential political decision of the year was Emmanuel Macron’s calling a snap election after the National Rally’s impressive showing in European parliamentary elections. After events over the past few days, it is still uncertain as to which blunder will have been the most consequential. Whatever the outcome, we are all watching corrupt systems collapse in real time. Amid this apocalypse - literally, an unveiling - we are seeing a kind of Reformation, the messy birth of a new order.

This is more the case in France than in the United States. The strong National Rally results in Sunday’s first round of voting occasioned an outpouring on France’s streets that could have been scripted by Camp of the Saints author Jean Raspail. 

In some French cities, Antifa and other leftist protesters set fires to express outrage at the results. In Paris, thousands of Islamists and leftists rallied against the ‘far right.’ Look at this clip captured by Luc Auffret. In this vast left-wing crowd, some protesters have raised various standards—the flag of Palestine, the flag of Pride, and so forth—but notice: you cannot see a single French tricolor there …

What does the contrast tell you? It hardly needs elaboration, does it? Among other things, it is visual confirmation that le Grand Remplacement is no conspiracy theory, but established fact. Rénaud Camus defines the Great Replacement as “the change of people, the substitution of one or several peoples for the people whose ancestral roots are there, whose history had for hundreds or thousands of years coincided with the territory in question.” All those native Frenchmen in that leftist mob, the ethnically Gallic too ashamed of France to raise her flag, demonstrate that the Great Replacement is also a state of mind. 

France is now in the middle of a fight for its future as a nation. France’s enemies are the Frenchmen who hate her, and the aliens they have brought in to replace the French who resist. This could not possibly be clearer now. Until Sunday, France’s enemies also included the elite establishmentarians of both Left and Right who facilitated le Grand Remplacement, and who counted on the French public’s fear of Vichy to blind them to the emerging reality. 

Well. Thanks to Macron’s folly, and to the subsequent Sunday vote, his centrist party has been effectively demolished. True, France now faces a genuinely frightening future of left-right conflict that, owing to the Left’s radicalism and willingness to use violence, could finally mean the advent of the civil war that the French have long feared. Note well that the elites in politics and journalism have for ages warned that the far right is a threat to democracy. But who smashed windows and set fires to protest the results of Sunday’s democratic vote? Not Marine Le Pen’s crowd. 

This is the truth that France’s establishment spent decades attempting not to see, and working hard to ensure that no French voter ever saw either …

Sunday’s vote, and undoubtedly the second-round voting on July 7th, confirm that most Frenchmen choose to believe their own eyes over the official lies and harassment by the establishment. Do not expect France’s journalists, academics, and other professional experts to comprehend what has happened, much less to explain it accurately and dispassionately. They have built their entire careers and indeed their very being as intellectuals on a set of liberal, globalist lies that require denial of facts and demonization of dissenters. Now it is all falling down around them. 

Meanwhile, across the ocean, the Democratic political class—journalists among them, of course - professes to be shocked by senile Joe Biden’s pathetic debate performance last week. It is high comedy to watch pundits and commentators express astonishment that the elderly president could barely string sentences together. Had they not been told by the White House that Biden was mentally sharp? 

Yes, they were - but only those determined to be fooled could possibly have believed it. If you were a reader of right-wing media, or at least subscribed to Twitter/X, you have known for a very long time that Biden is an ambulatory eggplant. It was obvious, in the many clips of his stumbling, his verbal tangles, his attempts to shake hands with people who were not present, and so forth. The journalists and party allies who now voice shock and horror at the president’s condition only have themselves to blame. 

Why did they believe an obvious lie for so long? The answer can only be because it served their political interests - specifically, keeping Donald Trump out of the White House. It is not particularly interesting to contemplate those who knew it was a lie, but who voiced it for cynical political reasons. Far more intriguing are those who sincerely believed Biden was basically fine, and who demonized anyone in the media and on the Left who said otherwise. 

Now Democrats face a catastrophe. If Biden chooses not to withdraw, he will likely be humiliated by a Trump landslide. If he does withdraw, or is somehow forced off the ticket, the party will be faced with the Kamala Harris problem. What do you do with a presidential candidate who is widely disliked and mocked as a lightweight chosen by Biden only because she is a black woman - and who will be beaten badly by Trump? 

If the Democrats dump Biden but also sideline Harris, the party will fracture around the outrage of its black and female activist constituency. Democrats are now having to live with the consequences of their reality-denying lies about diversity, equity, and inclusion. Democratic strategist James Carville, the 79-year-old Clinton-era warhorse, has been warning for some time now that Democrats are out of touch with ordinary Americans, and too bound to the illusions and rhetoric of coastal elites. Now Carville’s party is living with the ruinous consequences of its folly.

The tectonic political shift happening in the U.S. is not as threatening to civil order as France’s earthquake, but make no mistake: across the West, this is the end of an era. It matters immensely that the National Rally is now the most popular party in France, and that AfD is the second party of Germany. These are the core states of the European Union. 

Plus, unlike in the Anglosphere, most young voters favor the hard-right parties, not the left-wing ones. The bullying they experience on the subways from migrants moves them more than the bullying they receive from establishment bien-pensants on television shows. 

That said, all of this makes a stunning contrast to what will happen in Great Britain this week. On July 4, UK voters are going to give the governing Conservative Party a staggering defeat, perhaps even worse than the Tories’ humiliation by Tony Blair in 1997. Despite massive problems with migration and political extremism tied to migration, British voters will empower perhaps the most radical left-wing government since Clement Attlee’s Labour created Britain’s modern welfare state in the ruins of World War II. 

Yet Labour back then was thoroughly patriotic, and it governed a Britain that was far more socially and culturally cohesive. Today, especially after two decades of uncontrolled migration, as well as comprehensive national self-hatred instantiated throughout British institutions, the UK is deeply fractured. After 14 years of Tory rule, I don’t know a single British conservative who actually believes the lies the Conservative Party tells about itself. The fecklessness of the Tories, Macronist John Bulls who governed in the interests of London elites, will have delivered Britain into a grim woke future at precisely the same time patriots in continental democracies are finally voting to save their nations. 

We remember the Summer of 1914 as the last idyllic season before the West blew itself to bits with World War I. Will we recall the Summer of 2024 as the last idyll before the West destroyed itself with civil war, even if fought primarily through increasingly radical politics? That conclusion seems rash—for now—but one thing is undeniably clear: the center of Western politics no longer holds. It is dead, and the ones who killed it are not Donald Trump, Marine Le Pen, Nigel Farage, and other politicians of the real Right, but rather the managerial liberals (including Republicans, Tories, and Gaullists) who lived by lies—and who, crucially, believed their own lies.

The historian Barbara Tuchman, writing about the folly of the Renaissance popes in provoking and failing to contain the Reformation, criticized their “obliviousness to the growing disaffection of constituents, primacy of self-aggrandizement, [and] illusion of invulnerable status.”

“They could not change” the system, Tuchman wrote, “because they were part of it, grew out of it, depended on it.” So it is with the liberal governing elites of the Western democracies. And now, a Reformation is upon us. 

Rod Dreher

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  1. All the editorials and opinion pieces pouring forth from every side seem to be pretty much in agreement with what Rod Dreher says here. This week’s elections in Britain and France, plus the ongoing Trump-Biden campaign, seem to be ushering in a period of polarized politics unlike anything we’ve seen in Europe at least since 1945.

    At moments like this it’s quite comforting to reflect that I have the privilege of being able to enjoy the comparative political peace and quiet found here in Latin America.

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  2. I think that our election is going to be followed by a period of massive civil unrest. There will be the more extreme elements of the Right who feel that they've been denied a voice, or that the election has been stolen (which, America has taught us, justifies disorder and tearing down statues). The Militant 'pro-Palestine' crowd will push harder, inviting pushback, and will be very displeased when they discover that Starmer cannot dissolve the state of Israel.

    At the same time, Labour will paralyse and tear itself apart trying to appease the diametrically opposed demands of the extreme Islamist and trans-rights wings of the party, which I predict, will topple Starmer.

    It's going to get more unpleasant before (if) it gets any better. I'm glad I don't live in London.

    Watching the people get lairy
    It's not very pretty I tell thee
    Walking through town is quite scary
    It's not very sensible either

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    1. The alignment of Leftists and Islamists is truly astonishing. They share a common opposition to the moral and political foundations of the West but nothing else. Both see Western states as purposefully oppressive and unjust. It's an alliance of "victims."

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    2. It's not really astonishing. It's happened before, in Iran. The lefties there thought they could use Islam to bring down the Shah, and they were right. What they didn't bargain on was Islam having its own plans for the "new order." It's paradoxical, but Islam does not go as deep into the soil of Iran as other Muslim nations, for various cultural and historical reasons. But despite that, we've had forty years of extremist Islamic government destabilising the region. That's what happens when the left start building their designer societies.

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    3. I can understand it from an Islamist point of view. Fundamentally, the Islamic religion is inseparable from Islamic government, to the extent that some scholars believe that Islam is better classified as a political ideology than a religion. In Shia Islam, at least, rule by an Imam - a descendant of the Prophet - is the divinely appointed form of government (which, since the last one went into hiding in 874 and has yet to return, caused Khomeini to go through all kinds of theological gymnastics to justify his rule by Islamic clerics as a worldly substitute for the rule of the Imam). So it's not surprising that people seeking to introduce Islamic government would ally themselves with 'strange bedfellows' to enable this.

      What is surprising is the naivety of the left who seem to think that Islamists will soften their hardline stance on the some of the left's favoured activities simply because they helped the Islamists get into power. Hence the outcry when the Michigan city of Hamtramck elected a Muslim council, which promptly banned Pride flags.

      “We welcomed you,” former council member Catrina Stackpoole, a retired social worker who identifies as gay, recalls telling the council this summer. “We created nonprofits to help feed, clothe, find housing. We did everything we could to make your transition here easier, and this is how you repay us, by stabbing us in the back?”

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/09/16/hamtramck-michigan-pride-flag-ban/

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    4. @Lain
      That's an interesting read. Here is free-to-read access for others:

      https://archive.ph/2023.09.17-025141/https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/09/16/hamtramck-michigan-pride-flag-ban/

      This made me chuckle: “Make no mistake, homophobia, transphobia are indeed forms of evil as much as Islamophobia is.”

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    5. Guardian article on this has some additional insights:

      While Hamtramck is still viewed as a bastion of multiculturalism, the difficulties of local governance and living among neighbors with different cultural values quickly set in following the 2015 election. Some leaders and residents are now bitter political enemies engaged in a series of often vicious battles over the city’s direction, and the Pride flag controversy represents a crescendo in tension ...

      On one level, the discord that has flared between Muslim and non-Muslim populations in recent years has its root in a culture clash that is unique to a partly liberal small US city now under conservative Muslim leadership, residents say. Last year, the council approved an ordinance allowing backyard animal sacrifices, shocking some non-Muslim residents even though animal sacrifice is protected under the first amendment in the US as a form of religious expression.

      When Michigan legalized marijuana, it gave municipalities a late 2020 deadline to enact a prohibition of dispensaries. Hamtramck council missed the deadline and a dispensary opened, drawing outrage from conservative Muslims who demanded city leadership shut it down. That ignited counterprotests from many liberal residents, and the council only relented when it became clear it had no legal recourse.

      https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned

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    6. Personally, while I'm in favour of the flag banning, ultimately it's a mistake to make friends with Islam. It's a friend to nobody but Muslims, and arguably not even them. I have no sympathy for the leftists and gays who thought the welcome was reciprocated. Islam didn't stab them in the back, it stabbed them in the front. They just refused point blank to recognise what they were looking at and now they've got buyer's remorse. The most disgusting aspect is that they STILL won't learn.

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    7. The Islamists’ pragmatic reasons for accepting the support of the left are clearly quite different from the leftists’ typically muddle-headed reasons for supporting them. However, there are exceptions. I can think of one career politician who has done quite nicely for himself, first earning his living as a tame propagandist for the ayatollahs and then going on to win elections with the support of Muslim voters.

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    8. Sorry, I didn't realise that was paywalled, it worked for me.

      The left has adopted a variant of the Marxist idea of 'solidarity', in which each 'oppressed group' stands together against the 'oppressor'. Thus, if it reasons Muslims to be an oppressed minority, all the other oppressed groups must stand with them in solidarity, even when their aims are mutually exclusive (hence 'Queers for Palestine'). Like many other leftist ideas, it crumbles under the slightest touch of critical thinking.

      I don't blame the Islamic councillors; they are simply doing what their faith requires of them, which is a matter of public record and predictable to anybody with half a brain.

      But, as Bell said, the leftists here will continue to help the Islamists climb the ladder, not realising that the ladder will be kicked out from underneath them when the Islamists get to the top. Clearly, some people have never read The Gingerbread Man or The Scorpion and the Frog.

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    9. Clive Mitchell2 July 2024 at 22:07

      "Clearly, some people have never read The Gingerbread Man or The Scorpion and the Frog'

      Me!

      But what to do? It's all very well wringing our hands and blaming the Left. Which whilst I think that to be iair and reasonable, we are where we are. They are here and there is no obvious path I can see that will lead them to leave.



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    10. They're famous folk tales, is there no whimsy north of the border!?

      A gingerbread man comes to life, outruns everyone who wants to eat him and comes to a river. A fox offers to swim across with the gingerbread man on his back, assuring him he won't be eaten. As the fox crosses the river, he tells the gingerbread man to climb higher, onto his head and then onto his nose. Then the fox flips the gingerbread man into the air, catches him in his jaws and eats him. Similarly, a scorpion asks a frog to carry him across a river. The frog refuses, fearful that the scorpion will sting him, but the scorpion promises not to. The frog agrees. Halfway across the river, at the deepest point, the scorpion stings the frog, dooming them both. As they sink, the dying frog asks the scorpion why he stung him, as the scorpion will now also die. The scorpion replies that he couldn't help himself, it's in his nature. Here endth the lesson.

      I also don't see a path out of this. I've seen people suggest removing recognition of Islam as a religion, but Britain has never fully recovered from her last venture into religious intolerance, and I think this would be a bad idea. As long as whichever government is in power refuses to tackle migration from extremist countries and refuses to apply the law fairly to all, there can't even be the start of a solution. I think we have passed the tipping point.

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    11. @ Brian
      Yes, and now's he's a "socially conservative socialist" - all bases covered!

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    12. @ Lain - they wear kilts north of the border!

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    13. I used to have a tartan school skirt. That's the same kind of thing, isn't it?

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    14. @Lain
      I've seen people suggest removing recognition of Islam as a religion,

      It won’t be easy. They haven’t even managed yet to remove recognition of male and female as the two sexes, despite years of effort and millions of pounds wasted on their so-called “gender” propaganda, which only fools people who want to be fooled.

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    15. Clive Mitchell3 July 2024 at 22:33

      @Lain, I knew they were folk tales, I thought you knew of novels with these titles. You know the type of book no one likes or understands but doesn't want to admit to it. Probably written by Iris Murdoch!

      Feel a bit embarrassed now!

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    16. @ Ray - by Friday, all that propaganda may well be law...

      @ Clive - I should have kept quiet and impressed you with my highbrow reading tastes! 😂

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  3. Don't know why you are all getting into such a flap. Wont be long before King Donald Duck will sort everything out and make everything great again ! .....Rall

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  4. This is a very odd and unpredictable election. There is no question that Starmer will be PM tomorrow and Labour will rule the roost for the next five years with a huge majority. That's a given. Also given is that they'll do what Labour always does -- make a complete pig's dinner of it and leave everyone with buyer's remorse. That said, the really intriguing aspect is what's going to happen down ticket, and perhaps in a mark of the uncertainty, the final Survation poll yesterday gave themselves some very wide margins for error.

    https://i0.wp.com/wingsoverscotland.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/survationmrp.jpg?ssl=1

    What I'm really interested in seeing is how Reform will do. There is no question of them "winning" the election, or even making a major incursion into the Commons, but Survation's margins are interesting. They believe they'll come in with seven seats, but they think they MIGHT do as well as sixteen, and I find that fascinating.

    The Labour Party became a serious political force in the 1906 general election when it returned 28 seats. Set against the massive Liberal majority of that year, that didn't mean much at the time, but it was the bridgehead from which Labour became, in time, a party of government. What's almost forgotten these days is HOW it made such an inroad. How many here have ever heard of the MacDonald-Gladstone pact? This was an agreement between the two parties whereby the Liberals agreed to stand down in 40 constituencies and allow Labour a free run against the Tories. It seemed like a good idea at the time, saving Liberal resources in marginal seats, but it was probably the biggest mistake the Liberals ever made, and was the platform from which Labour eventually eclipsed them. If it hadn't happened, it's conceivable the two-party system today would still be Tory and Liberal.

    If Farage gets his bridgehead today, something very similar COULD happen going forward, this time with Reform eclipsing the Tories. When a party collapses under the British electoral system, it collapses like a house of cards. It doesn't just fade away. Of course, a lot depends on whether or not the Tories can actually find their way back to their foundational, Burkean values. If they do, then they may have a chance in the anarchy about to be unleased by Starmer and his zealots, but if not, we may be looking at a new political face-off in five years time.

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    1. Depending on the actual number of seats that Reform and the Tory party end up with tonight, we might even expect to see a merger, in a not too distant future, just as, back in 1988, the then seven-year-old Social Democratic Party merged with the rump Liberal Party to form the Lib Dems. This can only happen, though, if it looks like a favourable prospect for both of them, either now or after another general election in a few years’ time.

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    2. It seems to HJ that if the trend of polarisation continues then either the Conservative Party moves to the centre-right again or it will be overtaken by Reform with conservative voters shifting their allegiance. The country wont tolerate the Left's pandering to identity politics and multiculturalism for much longer.

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  5. @Happy Jack, would you care to comment on this other news that is threatening to upstage your election day special?
    https://www.reuters.com/sports/soccer/manchester-united-extend-ten-hags-contract-2026-2024-07-04/

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    1. Seems a sensible decision given the state of play at the club and the absence of a suitable alternative manager. There are no quick fixes to Man U's problems and I see a difficult time ahead for them over the coming few seasons.

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  6. Exit polls are suggesting a Labour landslide with 410 seats, Cons 131 (surprised it's that many), LibDem 61, Ref 13. Time to start packing, I suppose.

    https://news.sky.com/story/exit-poll-labour-to-win-landslide-in-general-election-13164851

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  7. Results so far, with just two seats left to declare:
    Lab 412
    Cons 121
    Lib Dem 71
    Reform 4
    Reform didn’t do very well, did they?

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    1. Well, they did as well as the Greens. I don't know what's going to happen next, but as an Irishman looking in from the outside, a few thoughts occur. First, it strikes me there was no great enthusiasm in evidence in this election. No particular excitement of the kind that was around in 1997. It was more a case of people looking at the Tories and saying, "please, somebody, make it stop." It wasn't a victory for Labour, so much as a collapse of the Tories. What does it say that Starmer got fewer votes than Corbin?

      Second, everything will depend on who the Tories choose as their next leader. If it's a serious person with a genuine British patriotism, rather than another BoBo (bourgeois bohemian) like Cameron or Sunak, they MAY have a chance at regeneration, especially if that person has a real grasp of Burkean political philosophy. Right now, I have no clue if such a person even exists in the deracinated Tory Party of 2024. If he or she doesn't, I think they're finished. Another bout of "Labour Lite" ain't going to do it for them.

      Third, if no such person emerges in the Tories, a lot will depend on how many seats Reform came second in, and more importantly, if they have the enthusiasm and consistent determination and build organisations in those seats and prepare for the next election. The great advantage socialists have always had, paradoxically, is their inhumanity: they don't have lives. They can spend literally years in smoke-filled (or, these days, smoke-free) back rooms plotting the revolution because they have nothing else to do with themselves. Actual human beings can't do that. They have families, jobs and commitments, and the kind of hopeful enthusiasm that has carried Reform so far won't carry them through the five-year long wasteland that Labour are about to create, and make no mistake, it's going to be bad.

      As an Irishman, I'm not supposed to like England, but in fact, I do, and, since the Good Friday agreement, so do a lot of Irish people, but one thing I don't understand. In the darkest days of "the Troubles," and going back even further to the War of Independence in the 1920s, I don't believe any Irishman ever hated England at the levels of intensity that the London BoBos of the the Labour Party do, and it's their own country. They despise it with a vehemence and a malevolence I cannot even begin to comprehend. I just don't get it, and, ancient enmities notwithstanding, I find it quite disturbing. Any clue would be enlightening.

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    2. They came third, which isn't with 4 weeks' notice and a hostile media.

      The FPTP system is broken. Compare the vote share to the (percentage of seats):

      Labour: 34% (64%) - 412 seats
      Conservatives: 24% (19%) - 121 seats
      Reform: 14% (1%) - 4 seats
      LibDem: 12% (11%) - 71 seats
      Greens: 7% (1%) - 4 seats

      Labour's share of the vote increased only two points, from 32% to 34%. The Conservatives share fell by 20 points. According to one Sky journalist, Labour's vote share is the lowest ever to win a majority, and Cameron had a higher share of the vote when we had a hung parliament. This is an election that the Tories have lost, not one that Labour has won.

      FPTP must be scraped. How can it be that we now have an effective dictatorship run by a party that secured only 34% of the vote on a 60% turnout - winning 2/3rds of the seats on 1/3rd of the votes? How can it be right that Reform secured more votes than the LibDems, but gained 67 fewer seats? And twice as many as the Greens but got the same number of seats?

      There are going to be an awful lot of frustrated people out there who feel that they have no way of making themselves heard, which is dangerous. As is a government with a huge majority that ~80% of the public didn't vote for.

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    3. @ Bell - a lot will depend on how many seats Reform came second in

      98 was the figure floating around earlier.

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  8. Something not getting too much attention is the 5 pro-Gaza independents who won seats in Yorkshire, Lancashire, the Midlands and London in reaction to Keir Starmer’s position on Israel.
    Gaza independents narrowly lost Birmingham Hodge Hill by just 1000 votes, and Ilford North by just 528 votes.

    Labour are down an average of 18 points in seats where the Muslim population is 20%, and in seats where that figure is above 25%, they are down 23 percentage points.

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  9. @Jack,
    the 5 pro-Gaza independents who won seats
    The incoming Labour government owes those five MPs no favours. It won't need their support in the House and it won't even need to take the trouble to listen to what they say.

    Rosie Duffield was reelected with an increased majority. Let's hope she'll have more influence now than she had before.

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  10. Next on the agenda, England v Switzerland ...

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    1. Most annoying England player = Pickford
      Most annoying commentator = Alan Shearer

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  11. Yvette 'Refugees Welcome' Cooper as Home Secretary
    Shabana 'Free Palestine' Mahmood as Justice Secretary
    Sir Patrick Valance as Minister For Lockdowns
    Ed Miliband as High Priest of Net Zero
    Lisa 'Transwomen Are Women' Nandy as Culture Secretary

    Lord, have mercy.

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    1. And David 'Papal Conclave Smoke is Racist' Lammy as Foreign Secretary.

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    2. Don't worry. A mediocrity like Starmer will never be able to hold a creaking monolith like Labour together, not with a majority as massive as that. If they'd squeaked in with a few seats to spare, their minds would be concentrated on keeping their jobs, but with that number of narcissists and their messiah complexes all competing, he's got about six months before the cracks start showing.

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    3. I agree. It's not a political party, it's a coalition of different groups of ideologues. Starmer doesn't have the charisma or grit to lead it. I suspect Rayner is already sharpening her knives.

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    4. Of course - but my point is sectarianism has returned to British politics. By all accounts the atmosphere at some vote counts was febrile.

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  12. Is this the next French prime minister? We'll soon find out.
    https://www.economist.com/europe/2024/06/17/a-hard-right-28-year-old-could-soon-be-frances-pm

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    1. I wasn't aware of Bardella's Italian heritage, but I do find it interesting. What we're getting is the difference between immigrants who are willing to assimilate, and immigrants who aren't, and it appears RN doesn't have a problem with the former, despite the "racist, racist, racist" chants from the political left. Below is a link to an article in The Critic magazine which goes into the disintegrating borders between left and right these days. Well worth a read.

      https://thecritic.co.uk/the-final-death-of-left-v-right/

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    2. Young Jordan Bardella is also a member of the Le Pen extended family. His wife is Marine Le Pen’s niece. Is there such a word as “nephew-in-law”?

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    3. Polls closed 10 mInutes ago. Exit polls are said to be showing the left-wing alliance in the lead, ahead of the National Rally
      https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/left-wing-new-popular-front-coalition-leads-second-round-french-parliamentary-2024-07-07/

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  13. Clive Mitchell7 July 2024 at 21:37

    Well this is a fine mess we've got ourselves into. Nett zero, higher taxes, greater spending on any mad cap scheme. A currency crisis and a cut in our credit rating are almost inevitable.

    It's going to be hell for those of us who can't get out.

    And Farage and Tice , otherwise known as Starmers little helpers, are going to be shown up as straw men, with nothing concrete to offer.

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    1. I think Starmer's little helper is currently packing his bags and getting ready to move to California and start a lucrative career as a consultant or after dinner speaker.

      This election was only ever going to go one way; the Tories were unelectable under Sunak, which everyone was telling them from the moment they installed him and which by-election after by-election proved. But the condescending political elite knew better, foisted him, Hunt and Cameron on us and failed to deliver on everything that gave them their huge majority in 2019.

      If Reform didn't exist, the majority of Reform voters would have stayed at home. You can't utterly betray your voter base for a decade and a half and still expect them to vote for you; everything Labour will do is everything the Tories were doing or would have done - highest peacetime tax rate, woke rubbish, high immigration, net zero - just a little faster.

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  14. National Assembly, final results

    Parties ... ... ... ... ... Seats ... Percent
    NFP (left-wing bloc) 182 ... 31.5
    Ensemble (Macron) 168 ... 29.1
    RN (Le Pen) ... ... ... 143 ... 24.8
    All others ... ... ... ... 84 ... 14.6
    Total ... ... ... ... .... 577 ... 100.0

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    1. They say the French vote with their hearts in the first round and with their heads in the second. If that is the case, it means that at least a quarter of the French are still very French indeed. On the other hand, if almost a third of them voted for a cobbled-together bloc of far-left zealots and ideologues who will reduce the country to a smouldering husk before the next elections are due, I'm not at all sure what it says about their powers of rationality. Is this really a price worth paying just to stop Marine Le Pen?

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  15. Here are some interesting numbers from the French election which are not being bandied about generally in the MSM, but are worth some cogitation. There were 178 run-offs on Sunday. Of these, the NFP -- the far leftists -- withdrew 99 of their candidates in favour of Ensemble, and Ensemble withdrew 79 of THEIR candidates in favour of the NFP, a question of both of them hating Le Pen more than they hate each other. That doesn't bode well for a co-habitation government at the best of times, but throw into the mix the presence of the Republicans, whom the NFP hate almost as much as RN, but in whose favour they withdrew 27 candidates and you've got the makings of an absolute donkey derby until the next French election, assuming France survives that long. You've go three parties which absolutely despise each other -- and one of them, NFP, itself a cobbled-together coalition of malcontents and contrarians -- who have precisely zero in common barring a mutual hatred of Marine Le Pen, and none of them capable of forming a majority government. The migrants are gonna need a bigger boat.

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  16. What proper conservatives do:

    https://en.mercopress.com/2024/07/05/milei-creates-ministry-of-deregulation-and-transformation-of-the-state

    “The Government of Argentina announced Thursday the creation of a Ministry of Deregulation and Transformation of the State to be headed by Economist and former Central Bank (BCRA) President Federico Sturzenegger, who will be sworn in Friday.”

    “Sturzenegger's role will be “to assist the President of the Nation and the Chief of Cabinet of Ministers, in order to their competences, in all matters concerning the courses of action for the implementation of the deregulation, reform and modernization of the State with a view to resizing,” through “reducing public spending and increasing the efficiency and effectiveness of the agencies that make up the National Public Administration, management transformation, simplification of the State, design and implementation of policies related to public employment,” the document states.”

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    1. Sturzenegger's previous experience, in Argentina and abroad, suggests he is likely to make a good job of it.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federico_Sturzenegger

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  17. CNN has an interesting article about the decline of foreign tourism in the UK, which is the only major European country not to see tourism return to pre-pandemic levels. Apparently, people don't want to visit the crime-ridden capital, experience our sewage-strewn coastlines, rely on trains that never come and get fleeced at every turn. Who knew?

    https://edition.cnn.com/travel/uk-tourism-drop-visitor-numbers-election/index.html

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  18. We are overdue for the next Open Forum!

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  19. Daily Mail headline:

    Les Miserables

    Panicking French elite bombard their wealth managers with enquiries about relocating to Italy and Switzerland amid growing outrage over victorious hard-left's plans for 90% tax on rich and huge spending increases

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